Attendances percentages next to learner name
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Joshua A
Give everyone on schoolhouse and attendance score. This would be kind of like a credit score for how likely a learner or tutor is to show up. There needs to be some sort of consequence for not showing up. I think a public percentage of (sessions attended/sessions signed up for). For new learners, it could be undetermined to handle the 0/0 case.
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Liam F
Could this be something only visible to tutors in a specific subworld? That might work around any discouragement for future sessions.
Leah K
For those who say this policy is too harsh, it's just another statistic that will be helpful for tutors. If the fact that others are able to see that a student has signed up and missed so many sessions is going to make the student uncomfortable, they might try not to miss them or be more considerate when signing up or requesting help. Tutors give a lot of dedication to their work, and it's a huge loss when after lots of planning, nobody comes. Currently, from what I have been hearing and experiencing, the attendance rate is really bad. Even if this new policy discourages some learners, many will still sign up, or find a way to remember what they've signed up for. We want to encourage students to be communicative and responsible.
Akshay Ravikumar
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Learners that don't attend sessions they registered to.
Micaela P
I opened up a series of sessions. Four learners enlisted and none attended the first session. I'm very frustrated. I think this is not a behavior that should be tolerated and I think it should be punished in some way. I'm totally discouraged to continue the series and will probably close it. I have 1million things to do and I separated a time to host this series, I also prepared thoroughly for them. This is not considerate AT ALL
Akshay Ravikumar
HI Micaela P, very sorry to hear this. It might be helpful to know that we're working on attendance mechanisms for learners this term.
Saran W
Even though I do like the idea, I feel like this may be hard to put into practice since there are situations where not only a learner may not show up, but they are unable to communicate that they cannot attend. I'm not into the idea of taxing a learner's integrity over situations they cannot control.
Akshay Ravikumar
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We're actually working on an attendance system + letting tutors mark sessions as mandatory / not mandatory. Will keep you posted! We're still trying to figure out the implications of the system / how it would work. Our general thinking is to not be super strict, but make sure that learners are communicative and respectful of their tutors' time.
Thomas L
In my opinion there should also be an option were after the tutor has helped them on zoom they could mark it as solved, since many people forget to mark it as solved and many tutors think that it's still not solved. But the idea wouldn't work all the time tho.
Joshua A
Thomas L: Thank you but it sounds easily exploitable.
Cortni T
On the negative side, this could discourage learners from signing up for sessions that they want to attend but are scared of missing for whatever reason. The consequences of this could outway the positives; I feel like this would cause a decrease in learner registration and therefore negatively impact attendence.
Joshua A
Cortni T: They should be scared of missing. It is a scar on their integrity. All of my school courses have attendance records. It would be nice to know how reliable a learner is.
Cortni T
Joshua A: Calling it a "scar on their integrity" is a bit much IMO. A large amount of learner absences are because of circumstances where they physically could not attend. You'd be putting the responsibility on the tutor to make sure they ALWAYS keep track of these circumstances (which I guarantee not everyone would, unintentionally or not). This would also create a lot of work for Schoolhouse teams and moderators as they'd probably have to check every single learner's attendance and verify their reasons if the tutor didn't log it. What I'm trying to say is it's too complicated and too harsh of a consequence for something this simple. Schoolhouse's main goal is to share learning/education and this could possibly discourage that in many learners.
Joshua A
Cortni T: Thank you for pointing out the absences because of circumstances. I think tracking and excusing could overwhelm the current system. Also, for those who have those random circumstances a 70% attendance would not be bad. Also, nothing would happen to them. There would be no minimum attendance percentage to sign up. But if I host a session, only one person with a 10% attendance rate signs up. I would know not to get my hopes up for them coming because they are either extremely unlucky or dishonest in their sign-up agreements.
Cortni T
Joshua A: I definitely understand that. I feel like this could be the beginning of a possible solution, but maybe the team could refine it if something similar is implemented. I'm not against the idea, simply wary of it, but your explanation is one I agree with. Regardless, great idea!
Joshua A
Cortni T: Thank you
Kindness C
If Joshua's idea is to be implemented, I think that there needs to be a tool for series/session hosts to make attendance mandatory/nonmandatory, and another tool for hosts to manually override absences (so that excused absences won't be counted against the learner).
Joshua A
Kindness C: Thank you for that consideration. I agree.
Joshua A
This idea is to prevent no-shows even more than the current policy.
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